I quoted my own reply from earlier in the thread, as a response to your other messages.
This goes a bit far for me. Not everyone has the ability to quit their job for a cause. So while I won't buy the game and I think this guy is a chud among chuds, I'm not ready to call every name in the credits sus.
I agree with you and I would also like to say that I still find it bullshit that the Cyberpunk OT was allowed here after everything that had transpired up until that point in time. It was a big middle finger to the trans community here and I want the staff to correct that mistake with this game in the future.The game (OT and any hype thread) should be banned on here quite frankly. I reckon it'll get the Cyberpunk treatment but it really shouldn't even be afforded that.
This game was trash from day one.
So maybe I'm misreading your point, but aren't you saying it's no surprise that someone working on a HP game is a chud?It's not "every name in the credits", it's the freaking director.
Damn, that's an impressive collection of fucking awful tweets.
Cancel this game.
So if im excited and looking forward to playing this game that means I hate women and trans people?...wut?
One of the more sensible posts in this thread. thank you.
Once again:The guy definitely needs to be fired and replaced, and probably even investigate if his shit ideologies were snuck into the game, but firing hundreds of people during a pandemic because one guy is a piece of shit is just ridiculous and cruel.
That's a good sign. Can we expect a decision a long time before the game releases?Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
I pray the solution works much smoother this time for all sides involved.Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
Once again:
You think he never expressed any of these views within his workplace? You think someone this high up in the project, does not reflect in any way other higher ups views? Do you think his views never affected in any way a minority coworker's ability to work? This not just one person.
This is very clearly not what their point isIn my old job I worked with about 200 people. About 3 or 4 people were hardcore Trump supporters, including one senior manager. Everyone else thought they were idiots. Should I have been fired as well as all 200 people?
Thank you. Just learned of this right now and I honestly cannot see a reason for the game and IP to be promoted here at all.Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
Was your job actually doing something that would be used to harm a minority?In my old job I worked with about 200 people. About 3 or 4 people were hardcore Trump supporters, including one senior manager. Everyone else thought they were idiots. Should I have been fired as well as all 200 people?
Dude's a lead designer, and has been working on this industry for more than a decade, it's not one person (besides, we do know a certain other shithead involved in this project y'know), it's an environment.In my old job I worked with about 200 people. About 3 or 4 people were hardcore Trump supporters, including one senior manager. Everyone else thought they were idiots. Should I have been fired as well as all 200 people?
So maybe I'm misreading your point, but aren't you saying it's no surprise that someone working on a HP game is a chud?
Nice.Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
Cool cool.Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
Appreciate the update. Hopefully we can throw this destructive IP into the trashcan here.Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
Dude's a lead designer, and has been working on this industry for more than a decade, it's not one person (besides, we do know a certain other shithead involved in this project y'know), it's an environment.
Edit:
And yeah, was your job something that would be used to harm minorities? This is the latest big thing on a franchise that has given a voice loud enough for one person to start having influence politically not only in their country, but many others as well.
Hey all,
The staff is going to be talking over how to handle this game. For now, please try to keep discussion civil. We'll let everyone know once we've had a chance to have that talk.
I don't know why you're being so severe about this. I've been totally polite to you. I'm not accusing you of saying anything wrong or of bad faith. I'm actually interested in your view of the morality of working at avalanche.I'm sorry but any benefit of the doubt I could give about "misreading" ends when you choose to misrepresent it the exact same way for the second time. Find someone else to construct bullshit strawmen from.
Dude's a lead designer, and has been working on this industry for more than a decade, it's not one person (besides, we do know a certain other shithead involved in this project y'know), it's an environment.
Edit:
And yeah, was your job something that would be used to harm minorities? This is the latest big thing on a franchise that has given a voice loud enough for one person to start having influence politically not only in their country, but many others as well.
Transistor We thank you for you and the staff's deliberation. I'm sure you're very busy, but is there a way we can threadmark the above post? I believe it's very informative and puts things into perspective.In case people needed a bite-size refresher..
Through the significance afforded to her by the Harry Potter IP, JK Rowling:
She is actively destructive to trans lives. Especially those in the UK, and of younger people looking to live as themselves. An utterly vile and contemptible woman.
- Has repeatedly sent out and echoed transphobic rhetoric.
- Relates transition to being a new form of gay conversion therapy, one that should be further restricted.
- Has driven trans children to self harm and suicide.
- Has given voice, promotion and platform to numerous transphobes and large anti-trans groups.
- Led a revolt that saw GRA reform scrapped, despite a 70% approval rating prior.
- Added to a pressure that resulted in links to support systems for vulnerable trans children being removed by the BBC.
- Has grown an influence that saw trans teenagers face further restrictions in accessing puberty blockers.
- Has been cited by foreign politicians in their own bids to restrict trans rights, healthcare access and freedoms.
- Poisoned discourse around trans access to bathrooms.
If you're saying it's no surprise the director is a chud, I'm just asking you if you feel like that extends beyond this particular person or not.
So maybe I'm misreading your point, but aren't you saying it's no surprise that someone working on a HP game is a chud?
It's not "every name in the credits", it's the freaking director.
....I love this post.looking forward to an OT where everyone's welcome 💯
fuck this game
Lmaolooking forward to an OT where everyone's welcome 💯
fuck this game
looking forward to an OT where everyone's welcome 💯
fuck this game
In my old job I worked with about 200 people. About 3 or 4 people were hardcore Trump supporters, including one senior manager. Everyone else thought they were idiots, and I think a few complained to HR asking them to tone it down. Should I have been fired as well as all 200 people?
This is disappointing. I've worked with Troy in the past. I wasn't aware of his politics. I know it says he's the lead designer but from my understanding he was always more of a producer/project manager. I don't know if that makes it any better. I'm not 100% sure what the team structure is over at Avalanche these days, but my understanding was that Alan Tew was the lead designer on the Hogwart's game. His linkedin lists him as a lead designer at WB in SLC. Same as Troy. I don't know if they have multiple lead designers on the project or they have other projects in development other than Hogwart's or what. For some projects you'll have a bunch of lead designers with each over a particular feature of the game and then maybe a creative director over the whole game. I'm not sure if that's how they're arranged there or what.
I know Alan Tew is a really good guy though. Very quiet, thoughtful and humble. A really good lead designer. I always had a lot of respect for him. I'm not sure of his politics, but I'm doubtful he's a right wing/gamer gate guy. He never seemed like the type. He was always very considerate of everyone on the team. So not everyone there as a lead on the team is a douche. There are some good people there.
HOWEVER... there have been a lot of comments about how a studio could employ someone like Troy who seems very publicly out about some obviously controversial (and by our standards ugly) viewpoints. The sad truth about Avalanche is while there are no doubt probably some people working there on the team with more progressive viewpoints, from my understanding a lot of the rot goes straight to the top. From what I've been told about the studio is that there's a lot of cronyism there and it's very top heavy with a lot of guys who are part of the "boy's club." I did hear a particularly ugly story about John Blackburn who's the studio head. I wasn't there so this is hearsay, but I trust where the story came from. Basically, Blackburn had some of the team management out for lunch one day and for some reason he decided it would be a good idea to go around the table and have everyone throw names out of people at the studio they thought were secretly gay and in the closet. What he didn't know was there was someone actually there at the table who wasn't out and was completely embarrassed and mortified by the whole thing. Totally unprofessional. That was back when Disney owned the studio and my understanding was that Disney HR ended up having to get involved.
So I wouldn't describe the studio management there as being very LGBTQ+ friendly. So given all of that I'm not too terribly surprised about this news.
This is disappointing. I've worked with Troy in the past. I wasn't aware of his politics. I know it says he's the lead designer but from my understanding he was always more of a producer/project manager. I don't know if that makes it any better. I'm not 100% sure what the team structure is over at Avalanche these days, but my understanding was that Alan Tew was the lead designer on the Hogwart's game. His linkedin lists him as a lead designer at WB in SLC. Same as Troy. I don't know if they have multiple lead designers on the project or they have other projects in development other than Hogwart's or what. For some projects you'll have a bunch of lead designers with each over a particular feature of the game and then maybe a creative director over the whole game. I'm not sure if that's how they're arranged there or what.
I know Alan Tew is a really good guy though. Very quiet, thoughtful and humble. A really good lead designer. I always had a lot of respect for him. I'm not sure of his politics, but I'm doubtful he's a right wing/gamer gate guy. He never seemed like the type. He was always very considerate of everyone on the team. So not everyone there as a lead on the team is a douche. There are some good people there.
HOWEVER... there have been a lot of comments about how a studio could employ someone like Troy who seems very publicly out about some obviously controversial (and by our standards ugly) viewpoints. The sad truth about Avalanche is while there are no doubt probably some people working there on the team with more progressive viewpoints, from my understanding a lot of the rot goes straight to the top. From what I've been told about the studio is that there's a lot of cronyism there and it's very top heavy with a lot of guys who are part of the "boy's club." I did hear a particularly ugly story about John Blackburn who's the studio head. I wasn't there so this is hearsay, but I trust where the story came from. Basically, Blackburn had some of the team management out for lunch one day and for some reason he decided it would be a good idea to go around the table and have everyone throw names out of people at the studio they thought were secretly gay and in the closet. What he didn't know was there was someone actually there at the table who wasn't out and was completely embarrassed and mortified by the whole thing. Totally unprofessional. That was back when Disney owned the studio and my understanding was that Disney HR ended up having to get involved.
So I wouldn't describe the studio management there as being very LGBTQ+ friendly. So given all of that I'm not too terribly surprised about this news.
I just want harry Potter, a perfectly fine IP on its own, to be completely separated from its creator and problematic people.
Also, with the message of the IP, it's incredibly confusing to me to see JKR be transphobic. It's literally antithetical to the meaning of the IP. The themes of the IP. It makes literally zero sense and I hate her for it.
Why can't these people just shut up? Why can't they all just be silent?
It's so ungodly frustrating to me. To a degree unfathomable.
Like, please - correct me if I'm wrong - but the IP is about making friends and the power of love for the most part. The bonds you make with others, despite their origins and background. Like... insert white guy blinking gif. I don't get it
So what you are saying is this guy was actively creating bigoted videos on youtube while he was working for DISNEY? And they didn't do anything about it?
This just gets better and better.
He worked for Disney until March 2016, so anything after that was when he was no longer working for them.So what you are saying is this guy was actively creating bigoted videos on youtube while he was working for DISNEY? And they didn't do anything about it?
This just gets better and better.